Curse

Missing HB · Sep 07, 2011, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Hello everyone,

I do believe it would be more interesting to put Heroes Ascent and Guild Versus Guild zaishen quests on week end only rather than randomly ...

Reasons :
- It doesn't change anything at the inactivity on week... People are still playing on euro evening only, and it's dead otherwise
- It's better if put on weekends because those formats will be active all the day
- More people can play on weekends than on week ( apart evening obviously, due to work and stuff)
- JQ/Fa/RA quests on weekend is stupid, people already play a lot the format

You might ask me 1 thing: What about Codex Arena and Alliance Battles ?

Well, those 2 formats are usually completly empty even on quest day, because JQ/FA rewards you more points than AB... and because Codex is full of syncers and people even prefer RA

The point is an other way to fix inactivity at least a little....
Waiting your comments ,

turbo234 · Sep 07, 2011, 08:28 AM // 08:28

biased towards higher end pvp and fairly pointless. suck it up like everyone else and play when it comes around

Spiritz · Sep 07, 2011, 09:30 AM // 09:30

I have to disagree with most op said.
I dont do pvp ( i hate it :P ) but even i can see that there are ppl doing most of pvp so i cant see how its dead ( unless your using only euro servers ).
Quite a lot of euro players play on american servers because they are more active than euro servers.Few of my guildies did the jq/fa weekend and from what i gather they had NO PROBLEMS getting into matches not did they say how empty it was.
If you look at recent posts on guru to do with pvp you will see some players posts saying how bad xxx is in pvp but the amount of replies from players still doing pvp shows its nothing like you seem to state.
Players will farm the pvp zquests so they will follow the pvp zquests around and that makes some days busier than others.

Lil Leena · Sep 07, 2011, 11:42 AM // 11:42

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

I have to disagree with most op said.
I dont do pvp ( i hate it :P ) but even i can see that there are ppl doing most of pvp so i cant see how its dead ( unless your using only euro servers ).
Quite a lot of euro players play on american servers because they are more active than euro servers.Few of my guildies did the jq/fa weekend and from what i gather they had NO PROBLEMS getting into matches not did they say how empty it was.
If you look at recent posts on guru to do with pvp you will see some players posts saying how bad xxx is in pvp but the amount of replies from players still doing pvp shows its nothing like you seem to state.
Players will farm the pvp zquests so they will follow the pvp zquests around and that makes some days busier than others.

Think you'll find that the weekend just gone was double faction in CMs so of course your guildies will say its busy and have no issues getting a game.

To see how dead HA is I suggest you visit ID1 throughout the day, even on quest day ID2 is pretty empty. For someone to comment on something that they never do and haven't had to experience is hardly adding to the debate.

I'm all for anything that will liven up HA/GvG at any time but, imo, these retarded fluxes are keeping people away even more, I know myself that I'm avoiding it this month.

You come up with some good ideas, just a shame to see all these PvE'rs come along and poo poo them all when they have no experience in it.

SpecialOpsNox · Sep 07, 2011, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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Originally Posted by Lil Leena

Think you'll find that the weekend just gone was double faction in CMs so of course your guildies will say its busy and have no issues getting a game.

To see how dead HA is I suggest you visit ID1 throughout the day, even on quest day ID2 is pretty empty. For someone to comment on something that they never do and haven't had to experience is hardly adding to the debate.

I'm all for anything that will liven up HA/GvG at any time but, imo, these retarded fluxes are keeping people away even more, I know myself that I'm avoiding it this month.

You come up with some good ideas, just a shame to see all these PvE'rs come along and poo poo them all when they have no experience in it.

/agree. People can't compare CMs which are casual PvP to serious PvP!
/agree x2. Flux is destroying GvG at least, it was indeed a good idea to counter FD a couple of months ago, but now? I can't stand playing everytime against invokes dealing so much damage. PLEASE don't buff healing to counter that damage btw! It's more then enough the powercreep crap that anet is been doing for all this years.

Dewshine Wildclaw · Sep 07, 2011, 02:00 PM // 14:00

Regardless of the points you made with FA/JQ and RA, AB and Codex... not letting them in on weekends seems unfair to me, I understand the difference on highend GvG/HA and those, but that doesn't really make it less unfair imo.
GvG and HA do get their turns in weekends too... oh that regular week daily doesn't change anything... not completely true. My guild does GvG regularly... on weekends... but last night they played some too, although not our normal GvG day, that was because it is the daily.

Fluffy Kittens · Sep 07, 2011, 02:55 PM // 14:55

GvG and HA should be more important than other PvP format since those are the elite formats while other are just casual. So this is a great idea and it would make at least weekends enjoyable and fun to play on.

Also, someone mentioned flux destroying GvG. That is completely incorrect, simply because those are long battles and pressure is always better than massive damage (a.k.a. eles). So flux destroyed all other formats but not GvG. Telling you that from my own experience.. had no problem winning against any build which included one or more eles (in GvG ofc, other formats are just a joke now...)

ErrantVenture · Sep 07, 2011, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Rezz Anna Nicole

GvG and HA should be more important than other PvP format since those are the elite formats while other are just casual. So this is a great idea and it would make at least weekends enjoyable and fun to play on.

Also, someone mentioned flux destroying GvG. That is completely incorrect, simply because those are long battles and pressure is always better than massive damage (a.k.a. eles). So flux destroyed all other formats but not GvG. Telling you that from my own experience.. had no problem winning against any build which included one or more eles (in GvG ofc, other formats are just a joke now...)

Yep...as a top 50 player I can agree with most of these statements. While this flux has definitely not been GOOD for GvG, it has certainly hurt that format much less than the other formats (RA/HA/JQ)

Missing HB · Sep 07, 2011, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Rezz Anna Nicole

GvG and HA should be more important than other PvP format since those are the elite formats while other are just casual. So this is a great idea and it would make at least weekends enjoyable and fun to play on.

That was exactly my point... When i logged last 2 days and saw 4 players in id1, written on B " last Hall Win 12 hours ago" this made me laugh quite a lot...

The same goes for GvG when i see a 3 round AT, 1 guild having 3/0/0 and all others being forfeits... last top GvG battle 16 hours ago...

Spiritz · Sep 07, 2011, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Have you thought about using different districts ? All i see is you saying about id1 and i dont think anywhere in gw is a real busy id .Most euro players switched to american dists which also explains why id1 was dead for you.

Way2dead · Sep 07, 2011, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Have you thought about using different districts ? All i see is you saying about id1 and i dont think anywhere in gw is a real busy id .Most euro players switched to american dists which also explains why id1 was dead for you.

id1 is the usual district for HA group forms......

OT: I do agree with the OP, HA and GvG are indeed some more 'important' forms of pvp

ErrantVenture · Sep 07, 2011, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Have you thought about using different districts ? All i see is you saying about id1 and i dont think anywhere in gw is a real busy id .Most euro players switched to american dists which also explains why id1 was dead for you.

HA PUGs have formed in international districts since before Factions launched. It dates back to prophecies before asian and european districts were added. Americans would come to international district of ToPK to PUG euros. It just stuck when HA moved to the battle isles.

vinoth · Sep 09, 2011, 03:36 PM // 15:36

This is a good idea as most people play during weekends.

However, I think a permanent fix would be to make GW HA/GVG free to the public.

You will have enough people of all levels to make it fun.

Missing HB · Sep 11, 2011, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Could be cool also yes... Atm, we just went to try to GvG considering there were few opponents on TV.... After 30mn we had no opponents, and then noticed that guilds were just syncing fights to get 1200 rating...( main guild having afks, opponents all being N/A 6/8...)

This is just not fun for people who wanna play fair and then i believe that having a permanent quest could be an option if well done, let's say if rating 950+...

ErrantVenture · Sep 11, 2011, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by vinoth

This is a good idea as most people play during weekends.

However, I think a permanent fix would be to make GW HA/GVG free to the public.

You will have enough people of all levels to make it fun.

What do you mean, "Free to the public"? IT doesn't cost anything, currently, to enter a ladder match in GvG or play HA.

Missing HB · Sep 12, 2011, 05:39 PM // 17:39

I guess he meant easier to access( i.e hench teams or better incentives to play).. You know, when you see that either last hall win was 3 hours ago, either hall is farmed by syncer( happening every day between 2-11 am GMT) and the main district is quite empty... it's hard to think that it doesn't cost anything to play HA...

You need to find players, but also find OPPONENTS... Randomways obviously aren't going to waste their time if there is some syncer or r12 team farming 1v1's

vinoth · Sep 13, 2011, 05:53 PM // 17:53

I meant people being able to play PVP without paying for the game. It will put them straight into PVE. If you want to do more than GVG/HA/RA/Codex, you will need to pay. Anet does not make any money from people who want to pvp. They make their revenue from PVErs. It will also be a good advertisement for GW2.

ErrantVenture · Sep 14, 2011, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by vinoth

I meant people being able to play PVP without paying for the game. It will put them straight into PVE. If you want to do more than GVG/HA/RA/Codex, you will need to pay. Anet does not make any money from people who want to pvp. They make their revenue from PVErs. It will also be a good advertisement for GW2.

Honestly I'm not sure how many people that would attract to the game at this late point, but it's a thought.

Swingline · Sep 14, 2011, 05:51 AM // 05:51

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Originally Posted by ErrantVenture

Honestly I'm not sure how many people that would attract to the game at this late point, but it's a thought.

Many games have gone free to play. The biggest one would be LoL and it got them to 16 million players but its also based off of a popular WC3 map. Its a good idea actually but with GW2 being a huge money pit in Anets pocket it raises serious doubts of ever happening. Of course there are ways to profit. Giving only one character slot to a f2p account might make people buy more slots and playing PvP might get players to check PvE out and buy the trilogy. If done right it could work, but are they willing to take the risk?

TBH they should just scrap the PvP unlock packs in the store along with unlocking skills and weapon mods in game. At this point its all about HoM/titles and having to unlock everything is akin to doing the dishes. It very well could get a lot more people into PvP and revive it.

Missing HB · Sep 14, 2011, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Dude, it's been 13 *** days that i can't do anything in this crap game when i log.. People syncing HA while id1 is empty, people syncing codex , probably people syncing low rating GvG, probably few zulu syncs in RA

I'm sorry but this game just rewards people for syncing while fair players can't do anything else than logging off... they better add back 7 hench parties ( at least during few hours each day) than allowing these joke i never ever saw in any game...

At least, doing this is better than nothing ( i.e what we had for about 2 years)... anything that will make syncers less able to do it and players more able to even GO IN will do good...